Originally Posted by Unregistered

They are pushing just for translation fees (request a ridiculous 15 USD/hours, which is around 5* the local basis for top experts)

Where do you have that info from? I mean the fee for local top experts?

Id mike. The average salary isn't a good basis to draw any conclusion from. For instance: since it's 3500 average can you state that 5000 would be pretty good for a mine-worker? He would make above-average money BUT still they get paid 7500-8000 officialy and two-three times more in real. What I mean is different jobs have vastly different salaries though in average it 3500 =)

Originally Posted by Ash

I have read alot about the UA dreams scam site, the girls arent real , its a rip off, blah blah blah,

Im not here to say all the branches of UA dreams are the same but i know the Poltava one is real, I know this because i have been there. I met a girl there, we started communicating by email, then video chat, then i arrived in Poltava to meet with her, when i left she made a facebook page so we could communicate without it costing me anymoney, then we started chatting on skype, we have since been on numerous holidays together around the world, we are engaged and i couldnt be happier. Sure it cost money to write emails or talk on video chat but they are running a business. I agree that the cost is rather expensive but i think its worth it

I know someone will reply to this saying i work there and all that sorta stuff, i know this because any opinion anyone has ever writting saying about there positive trips there has been met with ridicule from certain people. But i live in Australia not Ukraine.

I dont really give a fuck if anyone believes me, im just telling my story of how i met the love of my life there. Maybe it only worked for me because im 27 and fit and not 70 year old dirty man looking for sex with a younger girl.

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I met my fiance in Poltava , its a real place and not a scam

exactly. some people with 60 years would like to have 20 years old woman...gosh...all wish to be like hugh hefner!
and that people do not wish to pay anything, they threat themselves like spanish conquistadors which chase indians... and when they get arrow in ass they yell how it is not fair... if it is not fair than why you do not look 20 years old females in your country?
because you can not afford such... that females demand much much more!

translators are not only people with such function. they are also there and for security. you can pretend that you are good guy but later you can rip head of female, rape her or something like that... and escape in other country... or some female can have business with local mafia and they can do you too such things. for that reason translator must be there.
later if everything is fine you can have normal comunication withouth translators like ash said.

I can tell you of my experience with u a dreams. I don't know if the women who are in video chat a lot are paid to do it. I suspect they are. But I can tell you the woman I corresponded with did write the letters to me. A few months after she left the dating site, I found her profile on Russian Facebook. I wrote to her. She knew exactly who I was, and remembered the things we had talked about in our last letters. And it so happens that I am an older guy who was corresponding with a young woman. So if the translators were going to write fake letters, it seems I would have been a good candidate for that. Again, I can only speak about the girl I corresponded with. But I know that she read and wrote the letters. And she was at the Poltava branch.

hi ash im currently talking to a girl from ua dreams from ivano frankivsk im from London and like you im a 26 year old man very fit and in good health i've been talking to this girl since since july and everything she has told me about herself has been true i know this because when i first started talking with her i did my own investigation and found her vk.com profile and i corresponds to the information she gives me in her letter and the posts i have seen pn her vk.com looks like she is just a normal girl but i am still worried because all these bad posts and i just need to see that one good proves there all wrong evidence for myself maybe you can give me your Skype or Facebook page to talk a bit more about your experiences and put my worry s to bed.

Thanks Richard

I am glad that there are some positive experiences through dating agency.
But I believe that most of these agencies deceiving.
you can try to search for the girls on the site vk.tsom

Cheating can be everywhere. But do not say you're all liars.
But you have to be to be vigilant at all times.