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  1. Help me find Alina K (Poltava) from UADreams

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    Alina (AlinaK#9931) or anyone who recognizes her from this description. We met online with a dating agency UADreams (http://www.uadreams.com) You started writing me and I responded. I think we felt an irresistible pull. In your last letter you said you were in love with me. Know that I feel the same about you. Unfortunately the agency is a scam and is blocking our attempts to know each other. They just want to bleed men of their money. You can contact me directly at sharkeysvideo@gmail.com. My full name is Roald Thorsen (RoaldT #159079)and my phone is 1-419-280-8552. If I can find you and you still want what you said in your letters, it is yours. I will come over as soon as I can and we will get married, so you can come and live in paradise with me. If someone recognizes her please pass my info on to her. In a letter she told me she works for the largest building store in Poltava and goes to university for her masters degree. I can also be contacted on icq, my number there is: 372658020 Thank you. Roald (Ron) Thorsen. US Virgin Islands.
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    Why do you say the agency is blocking you? Are you getting no response to letters? Because that would surprise me. Or are you just not sending them cuz you have to pay? You are certainly right that the company is a scam but so are most the ladies you write to- or at least that is the common thinking. That is why I would be surprised at no response. I read on a anti-scam site where a girl who previously worked at UADreams, had revealed that part of the contract they made her sign is that ALL letters will be answered - that IS where they make their money after all

    In any case, I know this Alina, and have heard from her - last time was only a few days ago so she is still there. I don't know how I can help much beyond that since I would have no better luck getting any real info from her than you would - again this is how they make their money. It is also part of the reason I stopped communicating with her. I feel the whole thing is too much of a scam. I have actually told this to her as well.

    Good luck.
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  3. Re: Help me find Alina K (Poltava) from UADreams

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    Why are "My UA Lady" "myualady.com), "My RU Lady" (myrulady.com), "My AR Lady" (myarlady.com), "ualadys" (ualadys.com) or "Confidential Connections", "ruladys" (ruladys.com) or "Wife Connections", "arladys" (arladys.com) or Fiance Connections", "Chi Ladys" (chiladys.com), "Help in Love" (helpinlove.net), "Great Matchings" (greatmatchings.com) and "Bride Connections", "UA Dreams" (uadreams.com) on my Black List?

    UPDATE!! - OH MY LORD...stupid begets stupidity. This agency has just changed their name AGAIN. (Nov. /07) Instead of making a good agency, they change their name and continue to scam. Oh yes, I also just got PROOF that they themselves make fake profiles. You CANNOT trust anything about this agency.

    UPDATE - DEC. /08 - It just gets worse and worse. They have changed their name again (uadreams.com) and are trying to tell people that the company has divided. Whatever the case, forget this dumbass agency.

    I just wrote this on another page. The actions of the stupid prove their guilt. Instead of cleaning up their agency, CC decided to change the name. What is that? They say they have new management. What does that mean? I have NO reports about ualadys, arladys or ruladys yet, but I will keep this here until I talk to them and get some answers.

    I had them on the Grey List for a long time. The owner and I talked a few times and he assured me that there was nothing suspicious happening at his agency. He assured me he was trying to make a good, reliable agency. So, I removed them. Well, I am sorry to say that the complaints about this agency continue to be sent to me steadily.

    Some complaints are petty, some are serious and some are simply sad. I used to have links to the complaints, but I took them off, you can search for them yourself and find them easily.

    The reason that I have now decided to move them to the Black List is a combination of the serious complaints mixed with the fact that they do not allow the exchange of contact information between their male and female clients.

    Complaints are as follows. Several guys have made profiles at CC describing themselves as short, fat, bald, old and even MARRIED, and yet they still receive letters from girls. How is this possible?

    Reports continue to flow in!! Guys have extensive correspondence with girls, contact them through other agencies and the girls have no idea who the guy is. Girls are admitting that the agency makes them sign a contract where they agree not to join other agencies, not to talk about correspondence with anyone and not to talk about how the agency operates.

    More!!! A guy writes to a girl for about a year. She always has some excuse to NOT talk to him on the phone or video chat, and when he announces that he is going to go and visit her, she disappears. Gee, sound like the office staff is writing the letter? YES!!!!

    BUT, the overwhelming reports are those of former employees (which I never really take seriously, however) and I have more than one report from current employees who have reported fake letters writing taking place at CC. The reports are quite in-depth and it is quite sickening to me to her about the magnitude of the illegal activities at CC. Yes, the girls are real, like at most other places, it is the letters that you cannot be fully sure of. So, why bother?

    I have recently seen Wife Connections which appears to be the same site of an affiliate.

    Bride and Fiance Connections are the same company's Latin sites. If fishy things happen with their Russian offices, why would it be any different for their Latin offices?

    So, a guy asked ualadys.com what they can say about being on my Black List. Dumb thing to do - I hate it when guys do this. What do they expect the agency to say? "Yes, we scam from time to time." Of course they are going to deny it, lie and make up stories about me. Here is part of their reply about me...

    "Jim takes money for advertising dating agencies. Some he puts on Gold List, some to Grey and
    some to Black. But our company refuses to pay to be listed in the Gold list, because
    we run an honest business and we will not pay to anyone. We have quite a lot
    testimonials from our customers who have found wives with the help of our company".

    Stupid bastards. Yes, I allow Gold & White List agencies to advertise on my site. And I make a few bucks from this. I have openly stated this on my site from the very beginning. NOBODY pays to be on my Gold List. And when a few scam agencies have offered me money, rather than tell them to fuck off and die, I simply ignore them. I never offer money to agencies to be on the Gold List. My lists are made from reports and other criteria. And I guarantee you that if I offered to Gold List this agency at a price, they would jump at the chance.

    They do not run an honest business and if you search their name and former name (confidential connections) you will find tons of guys that discovered their scam firsthand. They simply cannot scam 100% of the guys 100% of the time, so there are bound to be some guys that are not scammed. Testimonials? Most of them on all agencies are BULLSHIT. Read my page about this.

    Bottom line, this agency is bad and make lies...about themselves AND me. And if you don't trust me, do a search. You'll see.

    The bigger complaints...
    hi jim, let me tell you the way uadreams scam its users,i visited there
    office in lutsk ukraine,it was in a shabby back street building dark and
    dirty entrance, they only talk in dollars, the office manager was called
    dana,in the office was 4 other women on pc,s they did not offer me a cup of
    coffee,and i was not aloud too use there pc, in the evening i arrived early
    too meet a lady, they did not want me too hang around and i was told too
    come back at 7pm, when i did i was asked for 50 dollars introductionthe the
    office manager in vited herself with us too a meal, they had top of the
    menu,and drinks, 100,dollars lot of money in ukraine, then the office
    manager had the neck to ask me for 45 dollarsfor interperatation, so this
    is the scam, and of course the lady can speak english but the next day she
    has a problem, there office converted flat, is in volli st, central lustk,
    the roads there are very bad like iraq, keep up the good work and expose
    this scam, they also charge 7 dollars per mail, and yes they girls in the
    office i beleive write the mails, regards marty

    more proof...

    Hi Jim,

    My name is ****,

    I live in ****, North Carolina. I am 36 and it's the same ole story but just
    MORE PROOF.

    I recently visited Simferopol UA after writing a nice lady named Anastacia Zabrobina
    for about 5 months. When I met her, she had no idea who I was!!! I knew I had been
    had but I had back up plans for another woman. ;-)

    Anyway!! Here is the GOOD part. I spent a good portion of the day in the UADreams
    office typing a letter (3-4hours) telling Anastacia that I was not interested in her
    and I was searching for another girl to have a date with. So during this time I was
    in the roach infested poor excuse for an office, I noticed that not ONE girl came in
    to write a letter or check their profile??? There were 4 translators in the office
    and they were like a machine!!! It was like a sweat shop for typing! Where were all
    these letters coming and going to without one lady coming by the office?

    I just needed to see if this scam thing was real and I found out that it was! I have
    pictures of the agency from the outside if you would like proof that I was there.
    Their agency is located on Gaydara Street. It was walking distance from the hotel.

    Anyway, it's just proves the scam,

    Thanks,
    ****

    Original http://agencyscams.com/Why/ConfidentialConnections.html
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  4. Re: Help me find Alina K (Poltava) from UADreams

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    I had a contact who was working in UA Dreams. And she said that most of mails are written by translators, girls don't even know that somebody are sending mails from their accounts.

    On other hand, girls sometimes go to such agencies to get free professional photos. But they have to sign a contract, by which they have to answer on calls, than foreign clients calling them.
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  5. Re: Help me find Alina K (Poltava) from UADreams

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    hi ron,

    i see your mail.i can add some information to yours worries.like you, i wrote to alina between novenber 2008 and april 2009.she send me letter that she give up on uadreams.since 2 weeks, i saw tby hazard.in fact on e my friend look at free porn movies site keezmovies he saw an advertisement dream mariage.com.i look at this site.the first lady than i see you is alina k from poltava.she was registrered under the number 343181.this site is on blacklist of jimlists.com

    i m sorry if i give you some bad news.there are a lot of dishonest young lady who use the kindness of nice men who come from rich countries.it s a reality
    francois

    my email : franco_deport@live.fr
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  6. Re: Help me find Alina K (Poltava) from UADreams

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    Hello Guys,

    I am new on this Forum and in fact I am corresponding to a girl in Kremenchuk (only 100 km away from Poltava) via UAdreams. I am suspicious of the agency but the answers I get from the girl seem to be(!) genuine.

    I am thinking of sending a package (rediculous enough UA dreams want to charge almost 60 dollars to simply serve as receiving address) and include a newspaper from my country and then to ask the girl for a photo with her and the newspaper. At least that could prove to me if the girl is really receiving the package herself or that indeed the agency is a scam and answering my emails themselves.

    Do you guys have any other recommendations how to check if the girl is real and really answering my email herself. I am considering to plan a trip but do not like to spend money on a trip to the Ukraine if the whole thing is a scam.

    I welcome any advise you can give me.
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  7. Re: Help me find Alina K (Poltava) from UADreams

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    Lotus,

    I agree with you that I do thrust the lady provided she is the one I am communicating with. Suppose that indeed an employee of UA dreams is answering my email how would I know that. That is why I thought of the newspaper. That way I could possibly see if the lady is indeed getting my messages and package or not.

    But I am open for better suggestions. I simply want to prevent being scammed by an agency who are collecting my money and answering my emails and using pictures of a lady who do not even know I exist.

    I read so much about scams these days. So far I had the impression that UA dreams is expensive but at least really making contact between guys and ladies but I am not sure anymore after reading so much about scams from dating agencies.
    And Ua dreams have cams in their offices (to show that they really exist) but all you can see on these webcams are the same girls all the time. And I do realize that an office must have translators etc but why not showing the entrance or something to make clear to viewers that many woman are coming and going to read and answer their mail. Littel things lite that feed my suspicion even while my feelings make me hope that the thing is real after all.
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  8. Re: Help me find Alina K (Poltava) from UADreams

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    Hello John or Gary Holland
    Iíve received your comment quotation at delphi:
    Re: Help me find Alina K (Poltava) from UADreams
    Postby Gary Holland on Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:40 am
    Hello Guys,
    I am new on this Forum and in fact I am corresponding to a girl in Kremenchuk (only 100 km away from Poltava) via UAdreams. I am suspicious of the agency but the answers I get from the girl seem to be(!) genuine.
    I am thinking of sending a package (rediculous enough UA dreams want to charge almost 60 dollars to simply serve as receiving address) and include a newspaper from my country and then to ask the girl for a photo with her and the newspaper. At least that could prove to me if the girl is really receiving the package herself or that indeed the agency is a scam and answering my emails themselves.
    Do you guys have any other recommendations how to check if the girl is real and really answering my email herself. I am considering to plan a trip but do not like to spend money on a trip to the Ukraine if the whole thing is a scam.
    I welcome any advise you can give me.
    All you have to do is explain him that the translator is the guy that is replying the letters. Let him know that the girls are real but they neither receive nor read the letters. Translators will keep conversation growing and growing. Theyíre only interested in keeping letters flowing and charging for it. If by any chance he gets to meet his girl, It is possible that the girl doesnít know the guy who has been writing at all; perhaps she might play with a fake relation.

    I insist on checking the URL of the agency on any search engines. If you find out that it is blacklisted; donít bother, someone has already been scammed before. You have already in your blogs many testimonials about dissapointing relations with uadreams and/or ualadys

    If Gary Holland has doubts, please forward my comment.

    Hasta luego,

    venezolano from Caracas Venezuela
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  9. Re: Help me find Alina K (Poltava) from UADreams

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    To Gary

    I have friends in Kremechuk and Poltava. Send me a PM an I will confirm: a) real b) a dater c) joined the agency for shits and giggles for you.

    Easy as Pie
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  10. Re: Help me find Alina K (Poltava) from UADreams

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    Quote Originally Posted by venezolano
    Hello John or Gary Holland
    Iíve received your comment quotation at delphi:
    Re: Help me find Alina K (Poltava) from UADreams
    Postby Gary Holland on Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:40 am
    Hello Guys,
    I am new on this Forum and in fact I am corresponding to a girl in Kremenchuk (only 100 km away from Poltava) via UAdreams. I am suspicious of the agency but the answers I get from the girl seem to be(!) genuine.
    I am thinking of sending a package (rediculous enough UA dreams want to charge almost 60 dollars to simply serve as receiving address) and include a newspaper from my country and then to ask the girl for a photo with her and the newspaper. At least that could prove to me if the girl is really receiving the package herself or that indeed the agency is a scam and answering my emails themselves.
    Do you guys have any other recommendations how to check if the girl is real and really answering my email herself. I am considering to plan a trip but do not like to spend money on a trip to the Ukraine if the whole thing is a scam.
    I welcome any advise you can give me.
    All you have to do is explain him that the translator is the guy that is replying the letters. Let him know that the girls are real but they neither receive nor read the letters. Translators will keep conversation growing and growing. Theyíre only interested in keeping letters flowing and charging for it. If by any chance he gets to meet his girl, It is possible that the girl doesnít know the guy who has been writing at all; perhaps she might play with a fake relation.

    I insist on checking the URL of the agency on any search engines. If you find out that it is blacklisted; donít bother, someone has already been scammed before. You have already in your blogs many testimonials about dissapointing relations with uadreams and/or ualadys

    If Gary Holland has doubts, please forward my comment.

    Hasta luego,

    venezolano from Caracas Venezuela

    Guys, you know that I had a lot of doubt about UAdreams. Buat asl most guys here I wanted it toi be true so I continued to write and then the lady made a special video only for me which I purchased from UAdreams and that looked so real that I decided to actually travel to Nikolaev. I made my own hotel arrangements and booked my own flight and only purchased an introduction meeting.

    And what can I tell you. UAdreams does exist. The manager and translator of the agency were very helpful and best of all I had a great meeting and dinner with the lady. The lady had chose the restaurant and I had at the table the lady, the UAdreams translator and private translator hired by me a I wanted to have absolute certainty that everything was safely translated!) and the whole evening cost with 4 people cost only 380 hrivnas and it was a nice restaurant.

    So I can say, do what I dit, be suspicious, and then be prepared but I think it is fair to mention on this site that in my case UAdreams (Nikolaev office) did a very good job and also their translator from the Nikolaev office did an excellent and very honest job.

    So it is good when people tell about bad experiences ( as it made be to act very careful) but I it certainly is unfair to say that UAdreams as an agency is ascam as I have no experienced that it is really working and they do try to do a good job.
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